Monday, February 19, 2007

Hate (A Rebuttal)

On February 15 I circulated what I considered to be a hate screed and denounced haters. I said among other things “They always want to get the group that the criminals came from which in this case would be Muslims. I also promised that “next time I will reproduce this screed again in full and rebut it with specific comments on each of its points.” In doing so I particularly want address the comments made by Dr. Joel Etra of Norwich, Conn. who said, “I did not see statements about Muslims in general rather about the deadly excesses of the criminal element.” So here goes! I will reproduce the screed with my comments on it in bold letters so they can easily be distinguished.

"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people - it was done by people of the islamic faith-this phraseology is clearly intended to tar the whole religion with the acts of the perpetrators - who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?

“Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania? Yes, they were mostly Americans but there were a great many from other nationalities and religions among them including approximately 100 Muslims.

“Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they? - Indeed they did.

“And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet? - The desecration of a religious object is always an insult to all the members of that religion. I think that Christians would be very insulted if a Christian bible were spit on, stamped on or otherwise treated with disrespect. The Nazis when they started their persecution of the Jews first and foremost desecrated the Jewish holy book, the Torah, because they knew how painful it would be to members of that faith.

“Well, I don't. I don't care at all.

“I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11. - Here again the linkage is that since Osama Bin Laden is evil that until he repents we are justified in treating his religion with contempt.

“I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia - Saudi Arabia is an intolerant society – do we really want to copy them; and even if we wanted to retaliate against the Saudis do we really want to also insult the religion of 52 countries having a population of which a majority is Muslim. India, which has a majority of Hindus, has a minority of Muslims totaling174 million. Some of our most important allies, e.g. Pakistan are Muslim states and our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan are shedding their blood to try to make those Muslim countries into viable states. Muslims have been victims of Al Qaeda attacks, notably Pakistan, Indonesia, Jordan and many others. Turkey a Muslim country is a member of NATO. There are between 700,000 and 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. Between 1 and 6 million Muslims reside in the U.S. most live quiet law abiding lives and no American Muslim has been identified as being part of Al Qaeda but insults hurled at their religion helps to radicalize and helps recruitment everywhere.

“I'll care when Abu Muse al-Sarawak tells the world he is sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

“I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.

“I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

“I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights. - What this has to do with insulting and desecrating a religious text is beyond me. But it is not the media that pays attention to International law. It is our government and the US Supreme Court. International law is binding on us all, often by treaty approved by the US Senate. But First Amendment liberties have never been and are not derived from international law. It should be noted, however, that in the declaration of independence there is a reference to “a decent respect to the opinions of mankind."

“In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.

“When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured that I don't care. - It was hardly a college hazing incident. It was intended to humiliate and degrade.

“When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank that I don't care.

“When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care. - First the issue is not the prisoners complaint, but the insult to all members of that faith. Second none of these prisoners have ever been convicted of any crimes. In fact, they have never even been accused of any.

“And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran" and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and ---- you guessed it - - I don't care ! ! ! ! ! - Another way to insult the Muslim faith.

“If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your a-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior!

“If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button.

“Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country. - Whoa, if I don’t agree then I am responsible for any possible future acts of terror! This is hate directed not only against Muslims but against all those who don’t agree with her vision of a world, where we disrespect the faith of huge numbers of people; the second largest faith in the world.

First rule for a sane world! Do not disrespect other religions or their Holy Books or Holy Symbols.

6 comments:

Liana Mouzakis of Athens, Greece said...

Congratulations on your analysis, point by point!
That is exactly how I feel myself and many people in my country.
Keep on the effort of "awakening " the human consciousness."

Dr. Joel Etra of Norwich, CT said...

Just like you, I don't want to see anyone subjected to hatred. Although the piece, as I read it, is addressed to a subset of Muslims, I can see how it might encourage hatred of all Muslims. As such, we should not be forwarding this kind of rant.
The writer, however, seems most concerned that after suffering death and destruction at the hands of terrorists, we must dance around the possibility of causing the same terrorists any indignity. The irony of caring for the holy book of someone who has killed innocent people cannot be lost.

CNohate@aol.com of Atlanta, Georgia said...

Not being verbose or intellectual, I will venture a response to your rebuttal.  I do this at the risk of being out of my league in political and intellectual matters. However, I do recognize an opportunity on your part to spew your liberal views by deliberately inflating, distorting and otherwise slanting the clearly written screed that is directed toward the murderous events of 9/11, the disrespect for the Christian and Jewish religions and the horrible beheadings. 
If you are going to address "hate" direct it where it belongs. Address it to the fanatical Islamic faction that hates so deeply it is beyond comprehension. There are good people in all religions. Your zealous defense of the Muslim religion is curious, since the screed is stating facts of criminal behavior citing specific events, which is known the world over as being carried out by fanatical Muslims.  It brings out the fact that the Bible is not respected or even allowed in certain Islamic countries. Even more curious is that you are, by subtle implication, addressing "Christians" in your rebuttal as the ones who are guilty of "hating". Yet, when the Pope was cursed, chastised and burned in effigy, you did not see Christians demonstrating in the streets like rabid animals. But not to belabor the point, when 911 occurred it was clearly a "Holy War". To be unmindful of this is dangerous.  Again to reiterate...there are good Jews, good Christians, good Muslims, good Hindus and good people of other religions.  Please do not use the power of the pen, the Internet, your amazing intelligence and knowledge to impart a message that will fan the flames of hatred under the guise of rebuking hatred. A clever ruse.

Herb Reiner of Cedar Grove, N.J. said...

For those who are interested, I believe that the following site: http://www.religioustolerance.org/1st_visi.htm
has some worthwhile information on the world's major religions, observations about tolerance and related topics.

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